Strawman Fallacy Against Conditional Security

A primary false accusation or distortion against those who reject eternal security seems to be that a person who embraces a conditional security is believing in a works salvation or cannot have salvation assurance. Both charges are absolutely untrue and unfair. The straw man fallacy applies here:

The straw man fallacy occurs when a person distorts an opposing position in some way, then attacks and demolishes this distorted position. By demolishing the distorted position, he or she claims to have demolished the entire position. (Henry Virkler, A Christian’s Guide to Critical Thinking, p. 227)

Regarding good deeds, it is not that good deeds will save, but sin can bring forth spiritual death (Jam 1:14, 15 cf. Lk 15:24,32). After initial salvation, we must persist in doing good to get eternal life (Rom 2:7).

The Bible teaches a present tense believer in Jesus has a present-tense assurance of salvation (1 Jn 5:12, 13). On the other hand, even if there was not any salvation assurance for the present tense believer, this still would not refute the believer’s conditional security. Only Scripture can do that, but instead of refuting such, it affirms it.

Copyright, Dan Corner.

Once Saved Always Saved Contradictions

A contradiction is one of the surest ways to know error exists. In other words, it is absolutely impossible for two conflicting messages to both be right. Either one of the messages is wrong or they are both wrong; but they cannot both be right!

Anyone who has read much on the subject of Once Saved Always Saved has certainly read contradictory interpretations of key verses. This must imply error! Somebody is apparently wrong, and therefore, misleading their following. If this wasn’t related to God’s eternal truth, it wouldn’t be as serious as it is. Unfortunately, it does and, therefore, it must be addressed.

Evangelist Dan Corner boldly addresses the obvious contradictions of the once saved always saved teachers in his 801 page volume refuting eternal security entitled, “The Believer’s Conditional Security” which can be purchased at a 15% discount for a limited time at his website http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org

Eternal Security Teachers Claim The Sexually Immoral Are Saved

Excerpted from The Believer’s Conditional Security by Dan Corner, available at http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org (Copyright 2000 Daniel D. Corner)

The following Eternal Security Teachers think that Paul believed one could be sexually immoral and saved at the same time, according to 1 Corinthians 5:

The man who had “his father’s wife”—a terrible sin—didn’t lose his salvation thereby…. (Dave Hunt, The Berean Call, July 1996, p. 3)

In spite of the sin of fornication, Paul still regarded the person as a saved man. (Robert Glen Gromacki, Salvation is Forever, p. 138)

Some have regarded 1 Corinthians 5:5 as the strongest verse in the Bible for once saved, always saved and I would not disagree. (R. T. Kendall, Once Saved, Always Saved (Chicago: Moody Press, 1985), p. 156

In spite of what Dave Hunt, Gromacki and Kendall say, the unnamed man in 1 Corinthians 5, who was sexually immoral, was never identified as a true Christian while sexually immoral! Instead, Paul identified this man by the term wicked in verse 13, which is the same word in the Greek (poneros) found in Mt. 13:49,50 describing those who will be cast into the fiery furnace:

This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth (NIV).

Note: Paul knew the man was wicked based on his sexual immorality, regardless of any past moment of faith. He goes on to say of the same person in 1 Cor. 5:5 (NKJV):

Deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Again, Paul knew that this sexually immoral man wasn’t saved, for the Corinthian congregation was told to hand him over to Satan so his sinful nature (flesh, NKJV) would be destroyed, that his spirit may be saved. If may be saved in 1 Cor. 5:5 means saved at that moment then it must mean the same in 1 Cor. 10:33 where it is also found, but that would be ludicrous:

For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved.

Also, the same Greek word translated flesh (sarx) in 1 Cor. 5:5 is also found in Gal. 5:19 and includes fornication (porneia), the very sin the unnamed man of 1 Corinthians 5 was guilty of (v. 1). In light of Gal. 5:19-21, with especially the warning of verse 21 in mind, Paul wanted his flesh, or sinful nature (sarx) destroyed, not his body (soma), so that he could inherit the kingdom of God and not be lost.

Beyond all of this, in the very next chapter, Paul specifically mentioned the sexually immoral, states they are wicked and then says, don’t be deceived, they will not inherit the kingdom of God:

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Cor 6:9-10)

In spite of this clear teaching from Paul, who knew more about grace than anyone in our day, many remain deceived about the sexually immoral. True grace teaching does not allow the sexually immoral into the kingdom of God. Only the counterfeit grace message, which is a license for immorality, tries to do this!

Is SUICIDE the unforgivable sin?

The following letter was received by Evangelical Outreach and the response follows.

I read about suicide on your web page where i got this e-mail address. i have often heard that suicide is the only unforgivable sin, and that it damns the soul to hell. i’m not being a smart aleck here, but what if one were to jump off a tall bridge or building and ask for forgiveness on the way down, before dying? i am being truthful when i say i’m not making a joke. i’ve had suicidal thoughts for most of my life, and i’m 36. please take this question seriously and respond. thank you.

[Response: Suicide is self-murder. Murderers go to the lake of fire (Rev. 21:8). How is one able to repent BEFORE the sin? There is no such thing in the Bible. Besides repentance must be sincere. How could it be if one is NOT SORRY for his murder since it is all planned out and acted upon including the so-called “repentance”? If you get saved you’ll have a purpose to live, peace, joy, love and truth. To live for GOD is the greatest life anyone could ever have. GOD BLESS YOU.]

To read another stirring testimony about suicide please visit http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/suicide_testimony.htm.

Judge Not Or Make A Righteous Judgment? by Dan Corner

Perhaps one of the best known Bible verses is, “Judge not lest ye be judged” (Mt 7:1). Those who condemn others for judging misuse this passage and fail to realize, however, that even they are making a judgment by saying such. They are also unaware that Christians are commanded to judge (Jn 7:24) and that Jesus commended Simon for making a right judgment (Lk 7:43).

Paul wrote,

The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment. (1 Cor 2:15)

Paul declared that he had passed judgment upon the wicked sexually immoral man in the Corinthian congregation (1 Cor 5:3). He also taught that Christians will judge the world and angels (1 Cor 6:2,3).

The kind of judgment Jesus opposed was hyprocritical judgment. In other words, as Jesus taught, first remove the plank from your own eye so that you will then see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye (Mt 7:1-5). If you are doing the same things which you condemn in another, that is hyprocritcal judgment that will bring God’s judgment upon the hyprocrite.

For more information on the subject of judging, please view the informative video below by holiness preacher, Brother Dan Corner.


Make a Right Judgment | The Command to Judge by Evangelist Dan Corner.

Eternal Salvation Is Not Eternal Security | Dan Corner

Can a person who loses his eternal salvation ever get saved again? Some erroneously think that eternal salvation means eternal security but the two terms are NOT the same. Eternal salvation is only for those who OBEY JESUS (Heb 5:9) whereas eternal security teaches one is saved forever regardless of what he does or fails to do. Once saved always saved is a popular myth having nothing to do with Biblical facts. Many are in hell now because of this snare to the soul. The real plan of salvation is repentance towards God and faith in Christ Jesus. Christians must endure to the end to be saved (Mt 10:22; Heb 3:14; Rev 2:10,11, etc.)


Dan Corner teaches about Eternal Salvation, Eternal Sin, Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, Backslider

Dan Corner has decades of experience in teaching the Bible and has written the most exhaustive refutation to once saved always saved that was ever written entitled, “The Believer’s Conditional Security: Eternal Security Refuted.” Get your own copy from his website at http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org

Demetrius

There can be no doubt that there have been some very amazing conversions to Christianity. The example of Saul of Tarsus, who persecuted Christians to their death and was radically changed into the mighty Apostle Paul, is the ultimate example. His holy and dedicated Christian example sets him up as the greatest example of Christianity of all time. He was light years different from how darkened grace changers present him as the worst of sinners!

Besides Paul, there are some we can speculate about. Such includes the little known Demetrius, who may have been very noteworthy as well, but it isn’t clear. We first read of the name Demetrius in Acts:

About that time there arose a great disturbance about the Way. A silversmith named Demetrius, who made silver shrines of Artemis, brought in no little business for the craftsmen. He called them together, along with the workmen in related trades, and said: “Men, you know we receive a good income from this business. And you see and hear how this fellow Paul has convinced and led astray large numbers of people here in Ephesus and in practically the whole province of Asia. He says that man-made gods are no gods at all. There is danger not only that our trade will lose its good name, but also that the temple of the great goddess Artemis will be discredited, and the goddess herself, who is worshiped throughout the province of Asia and the world, will be robbed of her divine majesty.” When they heard this, they were furious and began shouting: “Great is Artemis of the Ephesians!” (Acts 19:23-34)

That Demetrius was an idolater, as well as a maker of idols who lived in Ephesus. He stirred up other business people with a speech regarding how Paul’s teachings are not beneficial for their business. The pagan goddess, Artemas, was afterwards praised loudly for 2 hours. The city clerk had to quiet down the commotion. At a later time, John wrote:

Demetrius is well spoken of by everyone—and even by the truth itself. We also speak well of him, and you know that our testimony is true. (3 John 12)

Who was the Demetrius John reported well of? Could it be that he was the same Demetrius of Acts 19? If so, he too was one of the most shocking conversions to Christianity. Dan Corner thinks it is highly possible. If you agree or disagree with Dan Corner about Demetrius, it is clear that Saul of Tarsus was changed more than the possible change in Demetrius of Acts 19!

Saved, Healed and Receiving Mercy

Did you know the same Greek word translated saved in reference to the soul, is also used for physical healing:

Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.” (Luke 7:50)

Jesus turned and saw her. “Take heart, daughter,” he said, “your faith has healed you.” And the woman was healed from that moment. (Mat 9:22)

Another similarity to that is how some people have gotten saved and healed by virtually praying the same way asking for mercy:

Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: “God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.” But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, “God, have mercy on me, a sinner.” I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted. (Luke 18:10-14)

He called out, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!” Those who led the way rebuked him and told him to be quiet, but he shouted all the more, “Son of David, have mercy on me!” Jesus stopped and ordered the man to be brought to him. When he came near, Jesus asked him, “What do you want me to do for you?” “Lord, I want to see,” he replied. Jesus said to him, “Receive your sight; your faith has healed you.” (Luke 18:38-42)

Even if you once prayed to God asking for mercy and forgiveness, the big question now is, ARE YOU FOLLOWING JESUS AT THIS TIME? This is a SALVATION issue.

[Dan Corner, a former Catholic, has many important Christian teachings you may not be aware of. They range from Eternal Salvation to Near Death Experiences to refuting Catholicism and MUCH more. God bless you.]

Find Peace with God

Many people do not even realize that they do not have peace with God, which is the reason they never pursue it! True peace comes from having your heavy sin load forgiven. When Jesus’ blood was shed on the cross, he made it possible for all people to have eternal life and peace with God. Another problem is, many people wrongly think that they have peace with God because they were, at some past point, forgiven. What multitudes don’t realize is they can lose their salvation and peace with God through sin.

Holiness Preacher Dan Corner teaches about the VITAL importance of pursuing peace and living a life that is righteous, AFTER you have been born again. He uses the Bible to show that even though you have once found peace with God through repentance and faith in Jesus Christ, your future sins are not automatically forgiven. To learn more about this salvation related topic, visit EOMin.org.